about the role of faith. jole and victoria olsteen of the lakewood church in houston. how are you doing . >> great. thank you good to be here. >> you can't write words to help parents who lose kids like that. nothing you could say to me that would help me. >> it has to be the grace of god to get you through. that's what we deal with situations like that in a big church you feel at a loss. all i can tell you is god has you in the palm of the happened. and some of the families feel the peace. it is sad and tragic, but has a way of giting you through these things . >> it is going to take a lot of time. it is a week before christmas and words can't compless. but just being there. you don't need to stay manage and having people who love you and knowing suppose. >> i don't think i would be forgiving as a christian. i can't imagine this pain. you lose your child and someone kills your kid. i know what jesus did on the cross, but i am not jesus as awe lot of people know. i am showers, i don't know how you do that. >> sean, you never were in thuation and you don't have the grace and fathom that.